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So hifly-Mick has Adana's. To the best of my knowledge the USA has zero/ none. I have been looking for them even before I got Doneks and that was in 1992.
I was told by Bill G. that there was a guy in Canada that had imported some but couldn't get them to fly. He found a Turkish guy in the deep South here in the USA that said he would train and fly them for him. End of story. That's all I know.
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I have seen Dewlaps advertized in this country before. Are these differant than the Adana Dewlaps? emoticon

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The word Adana Dewlap is a location/region in Turkey. I have read that the Adana Dewlaps are bred only for flying/diving purposes. They are more aerodynamic in structure = "faster divers". The Dewaps that came to this country are of the Syrian type. larger show type birds. Did I say that! Sometimes the truth is hard for some people to except. Same goes for Oriental Rollers vs FOR's or Show Birmingham.. Homers..etc.

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Thanks for the information Dennis. It is important to let people know that some are bred for exhibition and not for performance. Nothing wrong with that, but people have to research and know what they are getting, so they will not be disappointed. Good luck in your search.

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Hello,

I thought I would step up and say Hi. emoticon I am Bill G. in Colorado. I have been raising and flying Dewlaps since I was a teen, a long time ago.

Anyway there are Adana Dewlaps here in the states. Adana birds are from Turkey. What makes them different is their green eyes. They are not so much breed for their color or markings as much for their diving. I had six of these birds in my loft for a few months in the begining of this year. But the fellow I got them from wanted them back? Yep, he was quite diferent?

My birds are of Syrian, Lebanon and Adana bloodlines. I had gotten some Adana's back in the 90's. Today my birds dive, fast.

Syrian and Lebonan birds are flown in their countries just not so much for diving, but in large flocks. It is the way of the US that made them into big show birds. Hope this helps out.
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I sent the money and mt box to Mehmet and I should get the birds next week.
Here is a little about the birds. **** Taylor in Canada imported the Adana's from Germany. He couldn't get them to fly so Mehmet has them now. They fly for him! I am next to try them. Bill correct me if I stated anything incorrectly.
Through out the years I have collected information on the Adana's by old APJ's, emails, phone calls etc. so the credit goes out to others on the following short article on Adana's.

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These are the two pair I am getting. Note: they all have green eyes.
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Adana Dewlaps are bred and flown for their high flying speed diving abilities and not so much for their color markings. They come in many colors and some have an interesting Hazel Green eye color.They are not a easy breed to fly and have made a many novice flyer give up on them. With much time and devotion they can become a very impressive breed to fly. They can reach a height so high that they look like a pin point and then on command drop at very high speeds making such a noise (like a rushing wind) as they plummet toward the loft. If you are not watching closely you will miss the action. You have only 6 to 8 seconds to capture the fall. When they prepare to fall, it tends to face the loft, cupping the wings, the head thrown backwards, and the tail slanted upward. Some birds will go into a wild spin with both wings open. Some birds come down like a rocket with wings closed. Others act as if they are going to crash into the rooftop, then to soar up like a jet airplane, making a loop and then diving back to the Dolab. Some fanciers call them Phantom Kus, means airplane bird. The wings are usually partially closed and in some cases the wings are fully closed, the primary flights are crossed as they come down. If they have open wings and spiral and spin when they come down, this is regarded as a fault in them by the Turks.
Then as it prepares to break the dive, it goes into a slant, tending to glide towards the loft and as the dive is broken, the wings extend, in full as it flies into the loft. Others will extended their wings out and they will plum the wings fast. There is rather hard wing beating or wing strokes made by some birds as they break the dive. If the birds have not been regularly flown, it is common that some will thump the ground rather hard. The wings usually are paralyzed in these birds as they walk back into the loft. Its remarkable that these birds don’t burst a lung in their dives.
Diving Adana’s are flown in small groups of 3-5 bird squadrons. The mated males are the preferred flyers, but females will perform well. They are housed in a small loft or cupboard called Dolab. It is best to start out with young birds weaned from the parents. Always keep them in want of feed. Start out letting them walk around getting them relaxed with their surroundings. Feed them in their loft. They will start to know to coop up to their home. Once they start flying around, you can start to force them up higher by using a flag on a pole. It is helpful sometimes to fly them with a good high flying breed to help get them going. These young will start to play around with gliding and short dives the more they are flown.
After seven months these young birds should be paired up. It is the diving males that then become the fastest divers. They have a very strong bond to their mates. Keep the females in their coops, then toss the males into the air. Force them up with the flag. By now they should climb fast and strong to a very high height. Then bring out the females as droppers. With their size and flat hard wings held close to their body, it will be a very fast exciting site to see. Some will pull out close to the ground and others may not. The whole flight may only be about 15 minutes, all the hard work paid off.
For quality flight and high performance these birds are allowed to feed young only one of two times in their life time. Any more parenting affects their performance in a negative way. They are kept in small boxes called dolap, where only a mated pair can fit and the wireless doors closed at night.
There are two flight periods for this breed: egg and courting. Egg is when the birds are on eggs (which are taken away from them after 10 to 12 days) and this is a normal performance period.
Courting period is the time when the male bird is most interested in its mate. In this period, flight and the performance done in a way to showcase all the special qualities of this breed.
Strait dive and scissoring dive are the two types of dives for the Adana Dewlaps. Strait dive is mainly seen in the Adana region and the scissoring dive in the Mersin region.
In a strait dive the bird sees the dropper call and dives like frozen, almost like a rock, with wings clamped to its body.
In scissoring dive the birds are flown in a kit of two or three, They respond to the dropper by the leader diving strait and the follower(s) in flying motion. At times, the leader also has to flap its wings to stay ahead of the squadron.
Because of the flying motion the birds dive in, this type of dive (scissoring) is the fastest of all diving breeds.
Their young are disciplined and trained by a trustworthy bird that is selected out of the squadrons. Training is done in order to strengthen their wings and breathing.
Remember that Dewlaps can get lazy, even the best of flyers will. So it is important to keep them in good flying shape. You can also fly your breeders on days you don’t fly the divers. Keep the divers from seeing the breeders. This is what works and there may be other methods.


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Nice!!!! Dennis put me on the list when you have some young birds for sale. Nick

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As for raising baby Adana's. I understand that they don't raise babies that well. Steve Klein in Oregon has the most recent imports and he says that they must be very imbred because he is having trouble raising any.
Time will tell for me!

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Wow, they sounds like a great breed,sure hope you have success getting them going !!!
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Here are some of my young birds. I will give them the Adana Dewlap Turkish names also. If anybody on this site knowns the Turkish language and I am in error, Please correct me!

Blue Check = Mavili Zirhli

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Blue Open Check Pied = Mavili Aynali Zirhli, can also be called Mavil Gerdanli Zirhli
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Black = Sakar

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White = Beyaz or Beyas:This bird is out of a pair of pied Adana's. Mating pied to pied will give you pure white.



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Necklaced Blue bar = Gerdanli Sami: If this bird didn't have the white mecklace and only the Earring it would be a Kupeli Sami

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